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		<title>Comment on Word for the Week: &#8220;Acedia&#8221; by Dee Sandin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee Sandin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently reading Kathleen&#039;s book and it has been a real eye opener for me. I did not know of the term &quot;acedia&quot; until then either. But I was praying to God to help me because I felt I was drowning and that&#039;s when I found this book. I don&#039;t claim to understand it all but some the the insights I do get are very much what I needed. Thank you Kathleen!

Many blessings,
Dee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently reading Kathleen&#8217;s book and it has been a real eye opener for me. I did not know of the term &#8220;acedia&#8221; until then either. But I was praying to God to help me because I felt I was drowning and that&#8217;s when I found this book. I don&#8217;t claim to understand it all but some the the insights I do get are very much what I needed. Thank you Kathleen!</p>
<p>Many blessings,<br />
Dee</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The nature of language&#8230;&#8221; by godsbooklover</title>
		<link>http://godsbooklover.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/the-nature-of-language/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>godsbooklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not denying the power of words to shape us.  I&#039;m just wrestling with the notion that it is in their very nature to do so.  But Jon&#039;s comment was very helpful in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not denying the power of words to shape us.  I&#8217;m just wrestling with the notion that it is in their very nature to do so.  But Jon&#8217;s comment was very helpful in that regard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The nature of language&#8230;&#8221; by Amy VanHuisen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy VanHuisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scripture forms us mysteriously--we cannot always totally comprehend the shaping work of the Spirit as He weaves the Word into the fiber of our beings.  

But I would never say that non-Scriptural words have no power to shape us.  Think of those books that stick with us, think of the tapes we play in our minds, think of the pithy sayings our mothers told us that dictate how we treat people or spend our money or do our laundry or say our prayers.  .....Just saying....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scripture forms us mysteriously&#8211;we cannot always totally comprehend the shaping work of the Spirit as He weaves the Word into the fiber of our beings.  </p>
<p>But I would never say that non-Scriptural words have no power to shape us.  Think of those books that stick with us, think of the tapes we play in our minds, think of the pithy sayings our mothers told us that dictate how we treat people or spend our money or do our laundry or say our prayers.  &#8230;..Just saying&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The nature of language&#8230;&#8221; by Jon Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm. 

God chooses as one of the leading metaphors for himself, the Word. 

And then, once so characterized, the Word is involved in creation, both in John and in Genesis. The speaking formed (rather than revealed) all of creation. 

If, as Dorothy Sayers argues, being created in the image of God means that we are creative, and if, God is, among other things, the Word, then it follows at some level that words have a creative rather than just a reporting essence. We fall short, but there is in the languaging process, a divine spark. 

And then think of how language forms our view of ourselves, how words spoken create identity. &quot;Good morning beautiful,&quot; spoken by a father to a daughter helps form a person who sees beauty not in externals. &quot;You are an idiot&quot;, said often, forms a different sort of character. &quot;I know pronounce you husband and wife&quot; is a speech act, acknowledged by us or socially agreed by us to form a union. 

In rhetoric, my old field, we talked often about the epistomological nature of discourse. Does it create reality? Does it report on reality? Peterson&#039;s words remind me of those conversations. He may be referencing that set of writing and research. 

Some hints of what Peterson may be touching on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm. </p>
<p>God chooses as one of the leading metaphors for himself, the Word. </p>
<p>And then, once so characterized, the Word is involved in creation, both in John and in Genesis. The speaking formed (rather than revealed) all of creation. </p>
<p>If, as Dorothy Sayers argues, being created in the image of God means that we are creative, and if, God is, among other things, the Word, then it follows at some level that words have a creative rather than just a reporting essence. We fall short, but there is in the languaging process, a divine spark. </p>
<p>And then think of how language forms our view of ourselves, how words spoken create identity. &#8220;Good morning beautiful,&#8221; spoken by a father to a daughter helps form a person who sees beauty not in externals. &#8220;You are an idiot&#8221;, said often, forms a different sort of character. &#8220;I know pronounce you husband and wife&#8221; is a speech act, acknowledged by us or socially agreed by us to form a union. </p>
<p>In rhetoric, my old field, we talked often about the epistomological nature of discourse. Does it create reality? Does it report on reality? Peterson&#8217;s words remind me of those conversations. He may be referencing that set of writing and research. </p>
<p>Some hints of what Peterson may be touching on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;The nature of language&#8230;&#8221; by Kyle Strobel</title>
		<link>http://godsbooklover.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/the-nature-of-language/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Strobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not had the chance to read this yet, but I think you hit an important nail on the head (but not just with Peterson, but with evangelicalism). The issue seems to be treating Scripture simply as text, and then punting the whole &quot;inspired&quot; piece, and &quot;God&#039;s Word&quot; piece to its truthfulness. In other words, the Bible is inspired and from God and that makes it true - other than that, it is just another book. This seems unfortunately anemic to me. It seems that this specific text is ontologically different - it is God&#039;s, in a way that other texts are not. Therefore, with your comment, it seems that the Bible can form and transform in ways other texts simply cannot do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not had the chance to read this yet, but I think you hit an important nail on the head (but not just with Peterson, but with evangelicalism). The issue seems to be treating Scripture simply as text, and then punting the whole &#8220;inspired&#8221; piece, and &#8220;God&#8217;s Word&#8221; piece to its truthfulness. In other words, the Bible is inspired and from God and that makes it true &#8211; other than that, it is just another book. This seems unfortunately anemic to me. It seems that this specific text is ontologically different &#8211; it is God&#8217;s, in a way that other texts are not. Therefore, with your comment, it seems that the Bible can form and transform in ways other texts simply cannot do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Open Letter to My Son in Jail by godsbooklover</title>
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		<dc:creator>godsbooklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m grateful that my words could be of help to you, and also that you took the time to tell me so.
Our Adam is an adult now, living with his older brother and doing fairly well so far.  We continue to pray that 
both our sons will turn back to the God who loves them and who has cared so well and patiently for them.
I will pray for your son, too--and for you, that God will be your strength and your peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful that my words could be of help to you, and also that you took the time to tell me so.<br />
Our Adam is an adult now, living with his older brother and doing fairly well so far.  We continue to pray that<br />
both our sons will turn back to the God who loves them and who has cared so well and patiently for them.<br />
I will pray for your son, too&#8211;and for you, that God will be your strength and your peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Open Letter to My Son in Jail by Cassie Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassie Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your words not only touch me, but inspire me. I was trying to find the right words to say to my 16 yr. old son who is back in YDC. The last 3 yrs. have been awful with him. I continue to pray for him and share the word of God with him - and he pushes it all away. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It helped me very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your words not only touch me, but inspire me. I was trying to find the right words to say to my 16 yr. old son who is back in YDC. The last 3 yrs. have been awful with him. I continue to pray for him and share the word of God with him &#8211; and he pushes it all away. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It helped me very much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on taking stock by A</title>
		<link>http://godsbooklover.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/taking-stock/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cf The Little Prince...the part about the baobabs....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cf The Little Prince&#8230;the part about the baobabs&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on taking stock by Amy VanHuisen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy VanHuisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great analogy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So many thoughts, so little time&#8230; by amyvanhuisen</title>
		<link>http://godsbooklover.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/so-many-thoughts-so-little-time/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>amyvanhuisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Different seasons bring different rhythms, I suppose.&quot;  I like that--and I think you&#039;re absolutely right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Different seasons bring different rhythms, I suppose.&#8221;  I like that&#8211;and I think you&#8217;re absolutely right.</p>
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